You could create a new gmail account, invite that to jaiku, then write an AppEngine app which automatically invites people to jaiku if they give it their email address.
Of course you'd have to handle duplicates and somehow protect yourself against spammers and bots.
@warza On the surface that sounds like a good idea but a- then you have to deal with spammers/bots and b- you're not really inviting people you know. Any random person can make use of your invitations. I suppose the same criticism could be made about the whole idea of jaikuinvites...even though I think it was a great community response to scarcity.
In one of @jyri's talks he says that social software works best when there is a 'gift' being conferred. However the value of that gift drops to 0 if there's no scarcity.
@adewale: spammers are worry for me but they are easily dealt with. At the moment you would have to have written a bot just for jaikuinvites to get through and have valid mx records for the domain of the email address you are using and because the code is all min I can easily add in a random fields as need to keep spammers at bay. The one thing you'll never stop is spammers using humans.
I wonder if I'm the only one Googling the email addresses of those they're inviting? So far I've found a couple of possibly get-rich/pyramide-alike website owner's/bloggers and have chosen not to invite those.
It's also a great way to see some excellent blogs/posts/Twitters that you wouldn't otherwise have found.
probably to used to jaiku being a friendly place, never thought of evil people, and even then, i can just "un-follow" them.
So far i have ssem something like a 30-40% registration return, and some of those have said thanks (which is nice), and that makes up for it all i guess.
@ACUK: The system is all automated so if you didn't invite them (ie click the invite link in the email) then it'll ask someone else in 24hours. It's the fairest way as some people just miss the emails or even ignore them for various reasons.
BTW great work on the number of invites you guys have being sending.
Saying that I have paused sending out invites requests to users for the moment and I'm trialling a invite bot I wrote. It seams to be working very well so I may not "sharers" in the future.
@ymb The queue was sitting around 400 when I last looked but demand has come right back up in the last few days so its fluctuating around that mark. The invite bot should take care of that in a few hours though.
If you want to see it in action keep an eye on @jaikuinvites follower list to see numbers shoot up.
@CiaranR: There's only been a few that look suspect, and I figure I was as well put 'em back into the queue and help out a "genuine" person sooner. (I've accidently deleted emails too, but not many!)
The one thing that might be a concern is that the invitee as well as the inviter see's the others address. I signed up for Jaiku using my main Yahoo! account and real name. I'm not bothered to be honest re:identity, but there is a worry about getting harvested. Probably just a Daily Mail-type worry though :-D
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40 clicks a day, I just gave my address and I could give 20 people invites.
1 year, 2 months ago by warza
That's how I'm doing it too but that doesn't sound like one of those charity ads (artistic licence!)
1 year, 2 months ago by ACUK
yep.. feels like a welfare worker on speed, hehe
1 year, 2 months ago by afr
There must be a better way...
1 year, 2 months ago by warza
well, @jaikuinvites could simply shortcut the requests with his own account as long as the invites are not limited anymore.. ;)
1 year, 2 months ago by afr
You could create a new gmail account, invite that to jaiku, then write an AppEngine app which automatically invites people to jaiku if they give it their email address.
Of course you'd have to handle duplicates and somehow protect yourself against spammers and bots.
1 year, 2 months ago by adewale
What would be better is for us to put up a link like www.jaiku.com/warza/invites. When people click on that they're automatically invited by us.
1 year, 2 months ago by warza
@warza interesting idea, I mite do that, but there some thing similar comming very soon from @jaikuinvites
1 year, 2 months ago by jaikuinvites
@warza On the surface that sounds like a good idea but a- then you have to deal with spammers/bots and b- you're not really inviting people you know. Any random person can make use of your invitations. I suppose the same criticism could be made about the whole idea of jaikuinvites...even though I think it was a great community response to scarcity.
In one of @jyri's talks he says that social software works best when there is a 'gift' being conferred. However the value of that gift drops to 0 if there's no scarcity.
1 year, 2 months ago by adewale
lol I'm logged in as @jaikuinvites not @ciaranr so instead of talking about myself in the 3rd person I did it in forth hehe
1 year, 2 months ago by jaikuinvites
@adewale: spammers are worry for me but they are easily dealt with. At the moment you would have to have written a bot just for jaikuinvites to get through and have valid mx records for the domain of the email address you are using and because the code is all min I can easily add in a random fields as need to keep spammers at bay. The one thing you'll never stop is spammers using humans.
1 year, 2 months ago by jaikuinvites
I wonder if I'm the only one Googling the email addresses of those they're inviting? So far I've found a couple of possibly get-rich/pyramide-alike website owner's/bloggers and have chosen not to invite those.
It's also a great way to see some excellent blogs/posts/Twitters that you wouldn't otherwise have found.
1 year, 2 months ago by ACUK
ooohhh, never thought of checking
probably to used to jaiku being a friendly place, never thought of evil people, and even then, i can just "un-follow" them.
So far i have ssem something like a 30-40% registration return, and some of those have said thanks (which is nice), and that makes up for it all i guess.
BTW @jaikuinvites how big is the "queue" now?
1 year, 2 months ago by ymb
@ACUK: The system is all automated so if you didn't invite them (ie click the invite link in the email) then it'll ask someone else in 24hours. It's the fairest way as some people just miss the emails or even ignore them for various reasons.
BTW great work on the number of invites you guys have being sending. Saying that I have paused sending out invites requests to users for the moment and I'm trialling a invite bot I wrote. It seams to be working very well so I may not "sharers" in the future.
@ymb The queue was sitting around 400 when I last looked but demand has come right back up in the last few days so its fluctuating around that mark. The invite bot should take care of that in a few hours though.
If you want to see it in action keep an eye on @jaikuinvites follower list to see numbers shoot up.
1 year, 2 months ago by CiaranR
@CiaranR: hehe, very cool. will be watching it :)
1 year, 2 months ago by afr
@CiaranR: There's only been a few that look suspect, and I figure I was as well put 'em back into the queue and help out a "genuine" person sooner. (I've accidently deleted emails too, but not many!)
The one thing that might be a concern is that the invitee as well as the inviter see's the others address. I signed up for Jaiku using my main Yahoo! account and real name. I'm not bothered to be honest re:identity, but there is a worry about getting harvested. Probably just a Daily Mail-type worry though :-D
1 year, 2 months ago by ACUK